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  • By aphextim 2019-09-0618:504 reply

    They use Vitamin E in order to get the extremely potent THC levels. On some cartridges they get 90% + which is crazy considering the most potent Marijuana in Bud form is like 25%

    Apparently that is what the main issue is that when Vitamin E vaporizes and then cools it changes form and may be harmful.

    It didn't appear to be in the flavored Nicotine juices, only in the Marijuana concentrates.

    Source:

    https://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2019/2019-09-05_vap....

    Products to avoid:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nysdoh/sets/72157710703391248/

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    • By KingMachiavelli 2019-09-0621:39

      That doesn't make much sense, adding a secondary compound doesn't increase the concetration rather by definition it decreases it but is sometimes necessary so that the final product has a high enough viscosity to wick in the e-cig/vaporizor.

      The issue with raw cannabis concentrates is that they are most have a wax-like or near solid consistency so they won't work in a normal vape intended for nicotine juice. The normal carrier fluids, propelyne glycol and glycerol don't disolve concentrates very whell. So In legal states, official products add special blends of terpenes. It seems that these blends range from working well enough to meet state regulations to expensive jugs of 'stuff' sold online without much info.

      However, there is a cheap, carrier fluid that can disolve concentrates and was used brefiely in regular, nicotine vapes but fell out of favor; PEG. PEG 400 along VG & PG can be used to create a carrier fluid for THC/concentrates.

      Really it makes no sense that someone/illicit organization would go through the effort of obtaining large quantities of Vitamin E acetate when PEG 400, VG, & PG are much more common and easy to obtain. None of the press releases specify if Vitamin E acetate made up the majority of the fluid or just enough that it might be contaminated (one mentioned that small amounts are found in cannabis naturally).

      The only scenario I can think of where someone would add Vitamin E acetate intentionally is if only a small amount combined with PG and/or VG was needed to stabilize the emulsion. It really depends on how much stock you put on 'maybe someone just ordered a bunch of oils off Amazon and tried them all and then started selling it across multiple states or shared the 'finding' online, etc'. I guess it's possible but it just seems like a lot more work than using already used, common ingredients.

    • By moate 2019-09-0621:051 reply

      Your first source link doesn't work.

    • By balaksakrionon 2019-09-0621:06

      so it's not a contaminant, but rather an additive? seems like the title should be changed potentially

    • By michitan 2019-09-0621:14

      This is a very misleading comment. Vitamin E acetate has nothing to do with the concentration of THC in the product. The addition of Vitamin E acetate to a THC product does not change the quantiy of THC in the product.

      The concentration of THC in the product is not "crazy", even considering the concentration of THC in bud - it's a concentrate, of course it has a higher concentration of THC. It has a higher concentration than bud because it doesn't have to carry the plant matter. This is like saying the concentration of vanillin in vanilla essence is "crazy" compared to the concentration in a vanilla bean.

      Additionally, the "products to avoid" link you have provided is NOT a list of products to avoid. Those images are for demonstration.

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